Mass murder as Old Testament ethics

January 18, 2009

the Bible says so

Gaza: the Bible says so



26 Responses to “Mass murder as Old Testament ethics”

  1. Harshad Says:

    Quoting the Old Testament for your propaganda is akin to using MS Windows 3.1 or AT&T UNIX in 2009 and complaining about it…

  2. jezekiah Says:

    Harshad said: “Quoting the Old Testament…”

    The Zionist claim is based on Old Testament fairy tales. Based upon their actions via history, it would appear that Zionists take many of their homicidal clues from the same fairy tales.

  3. Magoichi Saika Says:

    Yah, the Zionist clain is based on Old Testament. They scream “GOD PROMISED US TEH LAND, ITS OURS!”. Yet they fail to mention John ch. 8. Especially John 8:44, where Jesus says the jews are sons of the Devil, and everything they say are lies. Sounds like Israel doesn’t it? “Oh we dont use illegal weapons, we don’t target civilians, we want peace, etc.” All lies.

  4. Inmmutable Says:

    The Old Testament was created by the Jewish to justify his massacres, land stealing, destruction against their neighbours, in name of God. The Israhell has Satan as his god , people must awake before too late, you will pay for all your wicked actions. Everything is paid in this Earth and then later when JESUS (the one you killed) coming with whole power to destroy you and the infidels. The real book is the New Testament (you hate it) a God of love not destruction, misery, stealing, massacres ,…

  5. Paul Says:

    Well, in the Old Testament didnt God instruct Moses and other prophets to do so? In today’s time who did God speak to? Who’s hearing God’s voice?

  6. Kevin Says:

    I would direct everyone to Leonard Shlain’s “The Alphabet Versus the Goddess” to understand a possible reason for the violence associated with the Old Testament writings (
    Nonetheless, the Bible is rife with murder, war, revenge, jealousy, torture, wholesale killing, etc. That people find reasons there for the horrible things they do is predictable, if appalling.

  7. Hondo Says:

    It’s all a matter of hermeneutics;if only the proper distinction could be made between the allegorical and the literal, we would not be witnessing the catastrophe which has been going on for roughly a century.A free rein is being given to illiterate buggers , that’s where the problem lies.

  8. Harshad Says:

    Now you mention Zionists… please don’t generalize.

  9. Greg Samsonite Says:

    Zionist are a cult that is based on the old testament (Torah–jewish book). Israel is founded on blood of the innocent. Israel is terrorist. Soon it will be wiped from the face of the earth.

  10. Roy Says:

    so it is not the Quran that promots violence..What I know for sure is that there is nothing that even close to these is scary indeed. No wonder so many children and women have been killed in the ongoing aggression against Gaza

  11. imp Says:

    biblical inspiration

  12. Holocaust Gaza Says:

    Would you trust a manual which comes in more than 200 different versions for the same appliance? I doubt it.

    The Bible is friendly said the “Book of Fairy tales” and besides that the Roman history writers always correct and precise in their descriptions never mentioned the existence of a Jewish state only living Jews in Palestine amongst Arabs.

    Get the story right.

  13. James B Says:

    One of the most eyeopening verses of Old Testament scripture to me is found in the book of Lamentations.

    Yet our eyes failed;
    Looking for help was useless.
    In our watching we have watched
    For a nation that could not save.

    When will we as people worshipping ONE GOD not see that pursuit of things that bring destruction are contrary to the ‘laws’ that bring real life; not life obtained by objects that have no lasting value? If we can not treat/ respect our neighbor as we ourselves want to be traeted then we lack the propensity to reproduce the LIFE that has eternal value…love. That ‘love’ IS who GOD is. Not a group of people that resort to ruthless slaughter. They are unreasonable and there is no measure of peace in them….so how can they claim to come from ‘the Most High’?

  14. mosesman Says:

    Zionists are liars amnd mis-quote the Bible. The truth is :

    Exodus 22:21
    “You shall neither mistreat a stranger nor oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

    Exodus 23:9
    “Also you shall not oppress a stranger, for you know the heart of a stranger, because you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

    Leviticus 19:34
    The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your G_d.

    Deuteronomy 10:19
    Therefore love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.

    God does not condone murder, genocide or racism !


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  16. Consequo Jones Says:

    Harshad, unless you go into a business environment still using software from the Bronze Age of computing.

  17. jezekiah Says:

    Harshad said: “Now you mention Zionists… please don’t generalize.”

    Its quite specific. Zionists are the spawn of Satan. The only way that Jews, Christians and Muslims have any chance of co-existence is for the Zionist ways and methods, and every other exclusionary racist system, to be wiped from the face of the Earth.

  18. David Says:

    The God of the Old Testament is a demon from Hell. It boggles the mind that the framers of the New Testament included the Jewish writings as inspired. They killed the new Godman and were reputed to be God`s Chosen? Right away you knew God was a fool. Give me a break.

  19. Stop the Massacre of Palestinians in Gaza

    The whole world watches as the Palestinians in Gaza are being massacred. The justification for watching the slaughter is that Israel has the right to defend itself from Hamas rocket attacks on Israelis. But what of Palestine’s right to defend itself against further incursion by Israeli tactics? The massacres of non-combatant women, children, aid workers, medical staff, United Nation refuge workers etc. are excused away as inevitable and acceptable casualties of war.

    If all the nations of the world were to apply these justifications for their military actions, the whole world would become lawless, unsafe and barbaric. It would be a world ruled by bullies. The strongest would dominate and dictate to the rest of the world.

    The footprints of the ongoing slaughter in Gaza are all too obvious. America attacks by bombing incessantly and obliterating their opponent’s civilian infrastructure before sending in their invading forces. The Clinton administration did this in Yugoslavia and Bush has done it in Iraq. Today’s Israeli invasion of Gaza follows the American military strategy.

    One might ask why a small nation like Israel would dare to defy the Secretary General of the United Nations and almost all civilized nations on the planet by continuing the slaughter. The obvious answer is that Israel has the support of America in this activity. That is, Israel dares its massacre of the Palestinians in Gaza because the Bush administration condones and/or has orchestrated it. But, does Israel have the same support from President-elect Barack Obama?

    Obama’s silence on the issue of the slaughter can be construed as tacit approval of the Bush policy. Today, he has finally spoken out and was reported in the Guardian News and Media Limited to have said:
    The loss of civilian life in Gaza and Israel is a source of deep concern to me, and after January 20, I’m going to have plenty to say about the issue.

    Is the issue of ongoing killing of innocent civilians not pressing enough to speak out now? Is this because the lives of the goyim are being taken at a ratio of 100 for each Israeli killed? The casualties on both sides are not acceptable! They need to be stopped now! Were 100 Israelis dying for each Palestinian killed, what would Obama’s response be?

    Many of the Arab leaders are maintaining silence about the Israeli targeting of schools, hospitals and UN refuge centres as they slaughter Palestinian civilians in Gaza. This massacre cannot go on. Cowardice will not be rewarded. The quiet ones are slaves to their bully masters. Their nations could be the next targets of Israeli/American aggression, or that of other nations. Hamas leaders have now declared that it is open warfare on Israeli schools, hospitals and refuge points. Whilst it is understandable for Hamas to feel that way, it would be wholly unacceptable for them to carry out their warfare in that manner just because the Israelis have. Then their behaviour would be the same as Israel’s. This war has terrorized the civilians on both sides – it must stop now!

    Those responsible for destroying Iraq and spilling blood are now rewarding themselves with the highest civilian honour that can be bestowed by the American government. This just proves yet again that to the victors go the spoils. After Yugoslavia was destroyed by the West, Milosovich, who must have believed that he was trying to defend his own country, was being tried as a war criminal when he conveniently died in a Western prison. Saddam Hussein was tried, convicted and gruesomely executed for being a war criminal. Hussein must have also believed that he was defending his country. Were the vanquished to have been the victors, would Blair, Howard and Bush be tried, convicted and executed for war crimes?

    The media has been silenced on the Gaza war. Israel has denied foreign journalists access to the war zone. The New York Times has expressed its concern over this, but Ethan Bronner’s January 7, 2009 article, “Israel Puts Media Clamp on Gaza,” has clearly been restricted. Reading between the lines, he is declaring that Israel is antagonistic to free speech and the Western press. One Australian journalist for the Seven Television Network claimed that things are so horrendous in Gaza that he would not show pictures or discuss the horrific scenes that he had witnessed.

    The BBC has reported that Prime Minister Gordon Brown has finally stated:
    This is a humanitarian crisis. This is the darkest moment yet for the Middle East and it affects the whole of the world.

    How could it have taken Brown so long to speak out? How could it take Obama so long to object?

    Whilst Obama could be viewed as only tacitly complicit in the massacre, this excuse is obscene. Obama is actively responsible for what is occurring. He has spoken publicly on many other issues, yet remained silent on the Gaza slaughter, claiming there is only one president at a time. His latest stance of wait until “after January 20” is even more appalling than his prior silence. In effect, he is saying that the massacre can continue for two more weeks! It can wait because the humanitarian crisis is not important enough to worry about now!

    However, Obama has not only tacitly condoned Bush’s approval of the slaughter, he is very actively involved, because Obama has selected Robert Gates as his proposed Secretary of Defence. Gates is Bush’s Secretary of Defence! Bush and Obama are of opposing political parties! To realize the absurdity of this, imagine the outrage if Gordon Brown removed Labour member John Hutton from Secretary of State for Defence from his Labour cabinet and appointed Tory Leader David Cameron to the post! By choosing the opposition party’s Secretary of Defence, Obama is proclaiming that there is not a single Democrat suitable for taking the position, and therefore he must take the opposition’s choice to fill this cabinet position. This means not only does he approve of Bush’s war policies, but that he also intends to continue along the lines of his predecessor.

    The growing anger directed at Israel for this ongoing massacre is boiling over. Since there are no strong stances being taken by world leaders to stop this incursion, one shudders to think at the escalation this is inviting. Fury is mounting against Israel, which is putting innocent civilians in Israel and around the world in severe danger.

    The political hypocrisy is exposed to the world.

    The mounting suffering must stop now!

    W.B.W. Light-Rider
    January 7th, 2009

  20. Dr. Dan Says:

    April 10, 2008 “All of the Palestinians must be killed; men, women, infants, and even their beasts.” This was the religious opinion issued one week ago by Rabbi Yisrael Rosen, director of the Tsomet Institute, a long-established religious institute attended by students and soldiers in the Israeli settlements of the West Bank.

    For over Sixty years the World has been “guilt tripped” and milked of “reparations” by the SAME people who invented the very crimes of which they complain. Now they piously proclaim their desire for “peace, peace”, as they parade these rules around their places of worship, and KISS the scrolls on which these odious “rules” are codified.
    It was the Israelites that introduced to the world, and codified in their religion, Bigotry, Genocide, everything CRIMINAL that they now condemn in the Nazis
    The Nazis called themselves “superior” people. The CHOSEN People of GOD do not like the competition.
    The Nazis stole property from their victims.
    Aside from stealing ALL of Palestine, as well documented in the Torah(the 1st 5 books of the Bible) “for a place to live”,
    which they are repeating today, and the Nazis copied and called “growth room” how about ……..
    Exodus c.3 v.22
    Exodus c.11 v.2
    Exodus c.12 v.35-36 (obviously “Thou SHALT NOT STEAL” does not apply to NON-Jews.)

    The Nazis killed their own crippled and crazy.
    Numbers c.5 v.2-4 “putting them out of camp” means go die in the desert

    The Nazis killed homosexuals and sexual “deviants” …………..
    Leviticus c.20 v.13 well, really the whole chapter

    The Nazis killed those who dissented from the “party line” ……………..
    Exodus c.32 v.27
    Numbers c.11 v.1-2
    Numbers c.16 all
    Numbers c.21 v.5-6
    Numbers v.26 v.10

    The Nazis held themselves apart from other people……………….
    NO “diversity”, NO “integration”:
    Numbers v25 v.4-8
    Deuteronomy c.14 v.2

    The jews complain that Nazis demonized those they did not like, calling them perverts, parasites, unclean …..
    The Jews today call YOU “Gentile, GOYIM, Shiska” pejorative names equal to “the ‘N'” word.
    Demonizing, DEHUMANIZATION, is commonly used in order to justify killing people.
    The entire Torah/Books of Moses is a dehumanization of all NON-israelites.
    Accusing others of deviant sexuality, unclean practices, worshiping the “wrong” god, eating the “wrong” food.
    HATE codified in the Bible.

    FINALLY, the BIG evil ………..
    The Nazis engaged in GENOCIDE, deliberately killing men, women and children… because of their difference:
    After DEhumanizing the Native People of Palestine, the Israelites introduced GENOCIDE to the World:
    Numbers c.21 v.03 Canaanites
    Numbers c.21 v.24 Amorites
    Numbers c.21 v.33 Bashan
    Numbers c.31 all Midianites
    Numbers c.32 v. more Amorites
    Deuteronomy c.2 v.34 People of Heshbon
    Deuteronomy c.3 v.6 really the whole chapter. threescore cities
    Joshua c.12 A list of victims of Israeli GENOCIDE
    Where are THEIR “holocaust” Memorials!

    Genocide codified in their religion:
    Numbers c.33 v.31-34
    Deuteronomy c.7 v.2
    Deuteronomy c.12 v.28-30
    Deuteronomy c.20 v.11-16

    Terrorism codified in their religion:
    Deuteronomy c.2 v.2
    Deuteronomy c.7 v.16

    BURNING FLESH is “A sweet savor unto the Lord” – JUST A FEW of MANY MANY examples
    Exodus c.29 v.18, 25, 41&42
    Leviticus c.1 v.17
    Leviticus c.2 v.2&&9&12
    Leviticus c.3 v.5

    Now some will say “Oh, the Bible is not FACT, it is allegory or whatever.”
    To which I answer, FINE, then so is the portion where God supposedly “gave” Israel the land of Palestine.
    You cannot deny one verse, then use the next verse as justification to murder and steal land from People.

    For millenia the Jews have WAILED about their abject slavery under “Torturous, Inhumane”
    conditions in Egypt. As a matter of fact, their wailing is the same as their wailing
    about the “Torturous, Inhumane” treatment by the Nazis.
    How is it that “impoverished, abject slaves” have lambs to slaughter, flocks and herds?
    Exodus c.12 v.21
    Exodus c.12 v.32&38
    Exodus c.35 v.22-23
    How is it that “abject impoverished slaves” have neighbors with GOLD and SILVER and JEWELS to LOAN to these “slaves”
    Exodus c.3 v.22
    Exodus c.11 v.2
    Exodus c.12 v.35-36

  21. The passages quoted by Mosesman refer to fellow Israelites, not to ‘strangers’ in the sense we would imagine. The commandments in the Old Testament are clear–GENOCIDE AND ENSLAVEMENT. There is no way for any rational-thinking person to conclude otherwise that the Jews have been, are and always will be a maniacal, murderous, envious people and that the source of these collective traits are the teachings of their Torah and their “Torah Pt II”–meaning their Talmud.

  22. robertsgt40 Says:

    Don’t confuse the Old Testament with the Talmud. Don’t confuse the Khazars with the semites….i.e. Palestinians.

  23. e g d Says:

    [1] judaism is a nasty religion of bigotry and hate towards non-jews, we have to accept that
    [2] we know what the israeli politicians are saying
    [3] we know what the israeli military people are saying
    [4] what are the israeli religious people saying?

  24. tzugidan Says:

    If we could put all this shit aside and realize we share a planet, and we need to get along to live here as long as possible, we’d be a lot better off. Religion, politics, race, whatever, it all serves no other purpose than to pit us against one another….

  25. While the Israelites must be condemned for their actions, as well as the Palestinians who murder randomly, I felt the biblical falsification used in one of the earliest posts here to justify outright antisemitism should be exposed: the actual Biblical citation John 8:44 mentions no Jews, nor Israelites, nor semites; it is this: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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