A Carbon Sutra for the Furious Buddha
February 28, 2009
(note: I received and deleted three replies from the Furious Buddha, each of which I deleted due to their being filled with nothing but but invective and ad hominem. I’d like to thank FB for playing perfectly to form. – jezekiah)
A Carbon Sutra for the Furious Buddha
My fellow pilgrim-
You’re correct. We’re all flawed jewels of Indra, each of us reflecting light in infinite arrays. The net from which the jewels depend is infinite, the number of jewels is infinite, the light bouncing from jewel to jewel is infinite. But thankfully, there is an end to our folly.
You’re correct. We don’t know each other. I had no idea that you existed until you chose to disparage me, someone you admit that you don’t know, instead of attacking my ideas. As I recall, my response was to ask you a simple question: “Why did Eisenhower, Churchill and de Gaulle fail to mention mass extermination by gas chamber in their memoirs of World War II?” In response, you chose to call me, someone you admit that you don’t know, an “insect”.
If the best response that can be mustered to a simple question is to call names, I can only assume that the answer to the question is a rather frightening one that you’d rather not address. I have much compassion for you, my Furry Buddha friend, as it indicates to me that you’re soon to experience a whirlwind change in perception. You have my best wishes that you will come through happy and whole.
And yes, Buddha, there are many people that would love to run as much of the world as they possibly can. Sometimes they band together in hyena-like gangs with scary names like The Seven Deadly WASPY Lawyers, The Bloodsucking Zionists, The Sheiks of Araby and The Toothy-Grinned Politicians. They perch in high government and corporate cliff regions with their armed retinues, swooping down upon the plains dwellers with a more frequent urgency. Being a simple folk, the plains dwellers think them gods and dare not question their predations and pronouncements. After all, someone might call them names for questioning the gods.
Thankfully, there is always an end to our folly.
your pal,
jezekiah
February 28, 2009 at 11:48 am
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February 28, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Jezekiah-
My, but you are a very sensitive soul, aren’t you? I wear your censorship like a badge of honor, and have no fear, I have preserved our correspondence for posterity. I doubt you will be eager to pingback or link to me any time soon. It will be interesting to see if you consider this message to be ‘invective and ad hominem’.
I wonder, if one person signs their name and the other uses a pseudonym, how can the pseudonymous writer seriously accuse the other of ‘ad homenim’ attacks? How can I ‘argue against the man’ when I don’t even have any evidence that you’re a man?
-Winston Delgado.
From jezekiah:
Excellent, son. You’re almost learning how to be reasonable.
Keep at it and someday Reason will break through your emotional attachment to the mythology that we were all raised with.
regards,
jezekiah
February 28, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Now, if all of Jezekiah’s readers will go over to my Teahouse, you can see what he couldn’t bear to have you see here, which is a perfectly reasonable answer to his assertions. Obviously, it’s the presentation of evidence and refutation of your point that you can’t tolerate. You whine and whine that I won’t answer your question and when I do, you delete it and then cry that I’m mean and call you names. You are not very good and defending your assertions. That’s not an ad hominem attack, it’s an observation of fact.
-Winston Delgado
Reply from Jezekiah:
The existence of the camps was never in question. Where you’re stuck is the fact that Eisenhower NEVER mentions gas chambers. Show me where Eisenhower or Churchill ever mentioned mass extermination by gas chamber and then you might have something.
If you want your comments to appear on my blog (as you seem to), just refrain from ad hominem and invective. It’s easy.
later, gator-
jezekiah
March 1, 2009 at 12:53 am
I find it interesting that you are so focused on this particular question phrased in this particular way. For one, it is a line of argument that propagated on white supremacist websites. You appear to be trying to ‘mainstream’ this idea here by being polite and not using the typical ugly speech of your comrades. That’s why your crocodile tears shed from the terrible things I say about you are so darkly ironic and your demands to be treated with dignity are so pathetic. Secondly, you are demanding that I prove something to you that is already proven; you refuse to do any homework and blame the teacher. Here’s your lesson for the day:
“A distinguishing feature of the Dachau Camp was the gas chamber for the execution of prisoners and the somewhat elaborate facilities for execution by shooting. The gas chamber was located in the center of a large room in the crematory building. It was built of concrete. Its dimensions were about 20 by 20 feet, and the ceiling was some 10 feet in height. In two opposite walls of the chamber were airtight doors through which condemned prisoners could be taken into the chamber for execution and removed after execution. The supply of gas into the chamber was controlled by means of two valves on one of the outer walls, and beneath the valves was a small glass-covered peephole through which the operator could watch the victims die. The gas was let into the chamber through pipes terminating in perforated brass fixtures set into the ceiling. The chamber was of size sufficient to execute probably a hundred men at one time.” From Document No. 47 of the 79th Congress, 1st Session, Senate Report (May 15, 1945) of the Committee Requested by Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower to the Congress of the U.S. relative to Atrocities and other Conditions in Concentration Camps in Germany. This document was entered into the Nuremberg trial proceedings as IMT Document L-159
Just leave this up and I will leave you be, sir. You may hem and haw as you please, but I am finished with your lesson. It is worth what you paid for it.
-Winston Delgado
From Jezekiah:
Odd that you mention gas chambers in Dachau. Dachau was on German soil and no Holocaust historian of note, Lipstadt, etc., would ever claim that there were gas chambers operating in Germany. Even Harry Mazal (of Nizkor and holocaust-history.org) says:
My focus is many things. My blog has a number of postings, only one of which deals with the lack of evidence for mass extermination by gas chamber. That you appear to be focused on this one issue (and badly informed about the non-existence of gas chambers in Germany) is a reflection of your unquestioned conditioning.
One last thing: use the transcripts from the Nuremberg Trials with caution. Even a Supreme Court justice said of them:
Keep educating yourself, grasshopper. I’m 50 years old and still learning. You strike me as someone in your 20′s or 30′s that still has some living to do to break through your own conditioning. Have patience. It takes time.
And let me know if you ever find actual evidence for mass extermination by gas chamber.
regards,
jezekiah
March 1, 2009 at 8:42 pm
After witnessing as the Jewish lobby–
1. Denies with a straight face it wields any influence over American foreign policy, all the while bragging over it (a-la Olmert’s assertion that he ‘yanked’ Bush off stage in the middle of a speech to tell him the upcoming resolution in the UN calling for a cease-holocaust in Gaza)–
2. Denied Israel used phosphorus bombs in its holocaust in Gaza and then later admitted to it–
3. on top of a million, billion other lies–
why should we believe them therefore when they claim it was 6 million who died? They are consummate liars and intellectual pickpockets and could not tell the truth even if there were a fortune to be made by doing so.
Mark Glenn
American Free Press Newspaper
March 2, 2009 at 3:04 am
Even worse, my friend: why do we keep believing anyone – be they in the government, banking sector, corporate realm or the law/military spheres – that keep stealing from us, lying to us, murdering us and throwing us in jail?
What is it in the human makeup that causes us to seek security from sociopaths?
March 2, 2009 at 7:15 am
Nice. You deleted a perfectly rational reply and have released an army of sock puppets. You are hilarious.
From jezekiah:
Sorry. Calling people “insects” isn’t a rational reply. Perhaps someday you’ll be able to disagree with people without calling them names.
Then again, name calling is part of the conditioning. It prevents rational discourse and thus the conditioning is protected.